DEVILDRIVER - INTERVIEW WITH DEZ FAFARA - 1-27-05

RX: So, how have things been going with you?

Dez Fafara: Things are going fantastic, dude! I'm actually in the studio as we speak, and we just finished mixing a song called 'Unlucky 13' for the new CD. I can tell you now, I've never been more excited about something coming out with my name on it than I am at this moment.

RX: The new album is called The Fury Of Our Maker's Hand. What does the title mean to you? With the recent tsunami causing such horrible destruction, the title couldn't be more timely.

DF: Yeah! You know, that's very strange, and you're actually only the second person to make that observation. I do want to say, though, that we had decided on the album title long before everything started going haywire with the tsunami and earthquakes and everything. To me, the title The Fury Of Our Maker's Hand is that there's a meaning to everything that's happened. No one knows anything until we're dead, then we know it all, but it's too late, if you get what I'm saying. And that fury can be in the form of natural disaster on a global scale, or more of a personal nature, where it impacts only you.

RX: I really wanted to be able to embrace the Devildriver album, but it seemed that, while heavier other things you'd done, it was more "heavy for heavy's sake", and didn't have a very pointed focus musically. Obviously with the demise of Coal Chamber, you were going through a very stressful time, and with a new band, there had to be a good bit of concern as to whether your fans would follow you to Devildriver.

DF: You know, I can agree with you on some points, but I will say that I definitely knew where I wanted to go with both Coal Chamber and know where I want to go with Devildriver. The problem is in getting the musicians to follow me. You'll notice on the new CD that the old guitar player is gone. That's because he didn't want to go where I want to go. There were songs on the first Devildriver that we did use to fill space, as it were. There were songs that were very much in the Coal Chamber sound, and were directed specifically at pulling those fans of Coal Chamber into the Devildriver camp. The label had some say in the tracks that went on there, but I'm still very proud of what that album means to me. This new one, though, is...the only way I could even describe it is a jump in light speed. Whatever your opinion of the first one - and this goes for anyone - The Fury... is going to devastate. I'm standing on 14 tracks right now, totalling about an hour and fifteen minutes of music, and for the first time ever, there's no way anyone wants to make any cuts, or leave anything off! I'm sure we won't put every track on the album, and we'll let it up to the label as well as us, so far as what gets on. Still, the songs that don't make the album will be on soundtracks or B-sides. Either way, we'll make sure the kids get 'em.

RX: The first Devildriver was different from your past projects, in that you used more of your range in that one album than you had the whole time you were in Coal Chamber. How has your vocal approach changed for The Fury...

DF: Well, the problem with Coal Chamber was that the music wouldn't allow me to go where I wanted to go. The first Devildriver was the first step in the direction I want to take this band. On this second one, the highs are more high, the mids are more in the middle, and the lows are lowere. If I'd came into Coal Chamber with this type of vocal style, no one would've loved it. I have to mention Colin Richardson's contribution to The Fury.... I've never worked with a producer like him before, and he really let me expand on what I could do. Whereas most producers will spend a few hours on a song, focusing on a word, Colin concentrated more on the phrase, lyrical style, and how the emotion I was projecting would fit into the track. I've never had anyone capture what I do live in the studio. Where before, I'd have been spending half of a day on a word or sentence, when the vibe was right, Colin would just start the tape, and we'd knock an entire vocal track out in 2 1/2 hours. The thing's done so far as he's concerned, and he just flew out this morning. Just before he left, last night, we listened to the whole album for the first time, as well as alot of things he's done in the past. I couldn't be happier with the work he's done on The Fury....

RX: You got into music not from friends or searching on your own, but from your parents' record collection. How im- portant do you think parental support was to you in getting where you are today?

DF: Well, yeah. I can say they supported, but I can also say they didn't in some ways. (Laughs) Where they supported me going to rehearsal, they didn't when I got my nose pierced. Still, they let me mostly follow my dreams, and do what made me happy, and that's what I'm trying to do with my kids today. I mean, if you're kid wants to be a sculptor, buy him clay! Don't be like, "You go be a doctor!". A good example of this is that one of my own kids recently got into rap, which I wasn't exactly thrilled about. I did support him, though. Oh! I want to take this chance to publicly thank Jack Black for making School Of Rock! (Laughs) Now that same kid is walking around singing 'Iron Man' by Sabbath, and I love that! He's like, writing the words down and trying to make sense of them. Also, another one of my kids isn't even really into music at all. He's more into sports right now, and that's fine. It just comes down to being able to get behind your children in whatever they decide to make of their lives.

RX: You've mentioned recently wanting to take Devildriver in a new direction with The Fury.... On what paths would you like to take Devildriver, and is the new album a marked change from the debut?

DF: I wouldn't even say a "new direction", really. It's more of just a stepping up as far as technically, melodically, and lyrically. I couldn't really take this to where we should've been on the first one. You've got to appease some of those fans from your previous band...give them something they love, so they keep coming back to see what you're up to. This one's going to just open up the minds of the people who got the first CD. I know it sounds like marketing, or some hype, but I truly think that if you were into the first Devildriver, you're going to shit yourself with this one! Linear...that's a great word. The first disc was alot more linear, but The Fury... is just total overkill.

RX: How is the songwriting done for the band? You took some flack in the Coal Chamber days for coming across as controlling, or sometimes even egotistical. Does everyone Devildriver contribute to the songwriting, or do you pretty much handle it all?

DF: Let me tell you. Not to even go back into Coal Chamber, but they would give me things, and I'd say I didn't like it, then someone would be pissed for days on end. I can't work that way. This band, they'll write thirty songs, and give them to me. I'll tell them what I like, and what I don't. I'll suggest changes, or maybe a different delivery here and there. I don't play music, and I don't play an instrument, so my voice is all I have, and it's my instrument. I have to be given the authority to use my instrument to the best of my ability, the same as any guitarist, bass player, or drummer. That's one thing that's really making this project fun, it that we're all very open-minded in this band. We're having a good time with it!

RX: Your website describes some of the music on The Fury Of Our Maker's Hand as "mind expanding". That's a fairly heavy claim to make. When I think of music that is "mind expanding", I think of bands like Pink Floyd, Blut Aus Nord, and Godflesh...bands that take you somewhere with their songs. Where is Devildriver trying to take it's fans?

DF: Oh, man! Our first tour ever was with Godflesh! I'm like, the biggest Godflesh fan! Justin's incredibly cool, and the first night of the tour, he took me up to the bus and gave me all the CDs, and a shirt. Since then, we've gotten to know each other a little bit. On this album, there are songs that take you to other worlds, and you'll venture into many different places. You'll be in different rooms, but it's still the same house. You really don't want to take people to different houses in one album. There's no hype in it for me at this point, because no one's heard the damn thing yet, besides the band and Colin, really. We really think this album's going to broaden people's minds and take them to different spaces than anything else today.

RX: Can you let us in on some of the songs and topics covered with the new record?

DF: Sure! There's a song called 'Pale Horse', and one called 'Grinfucked' as well.

RX: Grinfucked?

DF: Yep! (Laughs) Haven't you ever been?

RX: Aha! Now it all comes clear! (Laughs) And yes, daily!

DF: So now you know!

RX: Thanks very much for your time and honesty. Is there anything you'd like to end with?

DF: Nah, thank you, man! It's been a pleasure! This is going to definitely grow, and it's not on any kind of decline. As many people as are visiting our site, and as supportive as the fans have been, we're seeing it now. Look at the numbers we're creating on website traffic. There's bands far bigger than we are that don't get half the traffic we do! It just goes to show you that, as long as you're true, people will back you, and you'll have the support you need from the people who appreciate your music.

www.devildriver.com

Photograph of Dez by Icer Rose


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